When Monica Cosby, Tyteanna Williams and Celia Colon talk about the years they spent as inmates at women's prisons in Illinois, their stories often turn to the times they would be disciplined for what seemed like small, even absurd things.
Cosby was playing Scrabble in her cell once when a guard asked what she was doing. She responded sarcastically: "What does it look like I'm doing?" He wrote her up for "contraband" (the Scrabble set) and for "insolence."
Williams got written up once when her cellmate, who had diabetes, passed out and Williams cursed at the officer she thought was too slow to help.
Colon got a disciplinary ticket for "reckless eye-balling." She had made a face when a corrections officer gave her an order. She says she ended up in solitary confinement as a result.
"You could get a ticket for anything," Colon said.
Especially, it turns out, if you're a woman.
Across the country, women in prison are disciplined at higher rates than men — often two to three times more often, and sometimes more — for smaller infractions of prison rules.
That is the finding of an investigation by NPR and the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University. We collected data from women's and men's prisons, visited five women's prisons around the country, and interviewed current and former prisoners along with past and present wardens and prison officials. We also spoke with academics and other experts.
In 13 of the 15 states we analyzed, women get in trouble at higher rates than men. The discrepancies are highest for more minor infractions of prison rules.
Different states sometimes used different ways of counting prisoners and punishments. We used the data states provided to divide the number of punishments by the number of inmates to estimate rates of discipline for men and women.
In California, according to our data analysis, women get more than twice the disciplinary tickets for what's called "disrespect."
In Vermont, women are more than three times as likely as men to get in trouble for "derogatory comments" about a corrections officer or another inmate.
In Rhode Island, women get more than three times the tickets for "disobedience." And in Iowa, female prisoners were nearly three times as likely as men to get in trouble for the violation of being "disruptive."
While the infractions might seem minor, punishment for them can have significant consequences, we found. In Idaho and Rhode Island, for instance, women are more likely than men to end up in solitary confinement for violations like disobedience.
Women can lose "good conduct credits" that would shorten an inmate's sentence, causing them to spend more time behind bars. In California, between January 2016 and February 2018, women had the equivalent of 1,483 years added to their sentences through good-credit revocations, and at a higher rate than for male prisoners, according to the data we collected.
Discipline for small infractions can also result in the loss of privileges like being able to buy food or supplies — including women's hygiene products — at the prison commissary. Or inmates lose their visitation and phone privileges. That can have a particular effect on women, because more than half of women in prison are the mothers of children 18 or younger.
We found a disproportionate pattern in punishment as well, with women often receiving more serious sanctions than men. In Massachusetts, according to our analysis, 60 percent of punishments for women restricted where they could go in prison, including confinement to their cells. Men received those punishments half as often.
The imbalance in the overall discipline of women gets little attention in the prison world, in part because men make up about 93 percent of the population of the nation's state and federal prisons. But as the number of men in prison has been declining, the number of women in prison is growing — by more than 750 percent since 1980, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. That's largely the result of stricter drug laws and mandatory sentencing.
'These Women Are So Difficult'
We asked experts why women get disciplined more for minor infractions. They noted that prison rules were set up to control men, especially violent ones. But that strict system of control doesn't always work for female prisoners.
One reason, researchers have increasingly come to understand, is that women typically come to prison for different reasons than do men and respond differently to prison life. Most prison staffers, meanwhile, are not trained to understand these differences.
Women are more likely than men to come for drug and property crimes and less likely to be convicted of violent crimes. They're also less likely to be violent once they're in prison.
They're also more likely than men to have significant problems with substance abuse, to have mental health problems and to be the caregiving parent of a minor child.
And about 80 to 90 percent of women in prison have been victims of sexual or physical violence, according to Alyssa Benedict, a consultant who is working in Illinois and other states to change the way prisons treat women. That matters when a corrections officer — and usually it's a man — yells an order. A woman with a history of abuse might react in a way that's defensive, says Benedict. Sometimes she will shut down, ignore the officer. Or she might yell back. Those are responses that can result in a disciplinary ticket.
"Women right now are being punished for coping with their trauma by a workforce that doesn't understand them," says Benedict. "There is a deep, dark secret around discipline and sanctions in women's prisons."
"We discipline based on emotion rather than on safety and security," says Maggie Burke, who was warden until last December of Logan Correctional Center, the largest women's prison in Illinois. "Is a facility safer because I put a woman in [solitary confinement] longer because she talked back to someone?"
Burke began retraining corrections officers when she was at Logan to understand differences between male and female prisoners.
"Typically when you tell a man to do something, a male inmate, he's either going to do it or he's not going to do it. But he's not going to lip off to you," says Burke, who worked in men's and women's prisons. "He's not going to talk back. There isn't a whole lot of emotion to it."
This sounds like a generalization, but we heard it over and over from experts on women's prisons.
"Whereas with women, emotion is in there," says Burke, who started as a guard 29 years ago. "She's just like: Go ahead, write me a ticket. It just kind of fuels the fire. And so then it's an emotional ticket."
Deanne Benos, a former assistant director at the Department of Corrections in Illinois, sees the same thing.
"Women are more communicative when you walk through a prison," says Benos, after a recent visit to Logan. "They want to talk to you. They want to talk about their children. They want to talk about their experiences. If they see an injustice with another woman in prison, or something that happened, they want to fix it."
Benos says she likes it that female prisoners are this way, but many corrections officers hate it. "The first thing that they'll tell you is: 'These women are so difficult. Gosh, they're a pain. I would rather work anywhere but here. They always want to talk to you. They won't take no for an answer.' "
These discrepancies between male and female prisoners have historical roots. In 1845, when there were only a handful of women in Illinois prisons, state auditors reported that "one female prisoner is of more trouble than twenty males."
Forcing Prison Staff To 'Look In The Mirror'
Benos and Benedict were part of a team that helped perform a federally funded audit of Logan Correctional Center. In 2013, Logan changed from a men's prison to a women's prison. Corrections officers stayed the same. The November 2016 audit found they were given no training in the differences between handling male and female prisoners.
The audit found Logan was a chaotic, overcrowded place with overwhelmed staff — in three years, there were six different wardens — and that the results harmed the female prisoners there. Suicide attempts increased to 10 a month from one. Officers overused solitary confinement and force to control prisoners. Guards routinely used racial and homophobic slurs.
Women were being punished at exorbitant rates — almost twice as often as men in other state prisons — for all offenses, big and small. But the audit found women at Logan were even more likely to be punished for lesser and nonviolent infractions. They got ticketed at almost five times the rate of men for an offense called "minor insolence."
Women also were losing good conduct credits and, as a result, getting days, months or even years added to their time in prison. In one year alone, 2015, women lost 93 years of those credits. That's 20 extra days of prison time for each woman. Many women got no days added. But some — often women with serious mental illness — ended up with months, or even a year or more, of added time.
Illinois made some changes as a result of the audit. Fewer women have gone to solitary confinement in the past several years. And the loss of good conduct credits has been cut by 90 percent.
Late last year and early this year, Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed laws that require specific programming for women in prison and that mandate officer training in ways to better handle female prisoners.
As a result, officers are being trained in something called "gender responsive" corrections. It's built on the idea that there are important differences between men and women in prison and that the rules governing prisons should reflect those differences.
Glen Austin, the current warden at Logan, said the training "forces our staff to look in the mirror almost like a self-check," helping them "see the human side of our population." And to pay attention to why female prisoners are different: "Anywhere between 95 and 98 percent of the women's population has suffered from some type of trauma, if not multiple types of traumas," he says.
One 2010 report on women in Illinois prisons found that 98 percent had dealt with physical abuse before coming to prison and 75 percent had been sexually abused.
The state's new commitment to training starts with newly hired officers. New officers go through a six-week training academy, and for those assigned to one of the state's two women's prisons, there is a one-week focus on how to deal with female prisoners. Officers currently working at a women's prison are getting similar training.
But it's time-consuming and costly. As of this spring, only a fraction of prison staff at Logan had received that training.
Outside the walls of Logan, Carolyn Gurski, appointed earlier this year to a new position in charge of women's programs in Illinois, explained how corrections departments have slowly evolved to understand the differences with female prisoners — and how that plays out in discipline.
When she got her first job, as a corrections officer, in 1989, there was no similar training. "I didn't even think about women being in prison," she says.
It is now Gurski's responsibility to see that those trainings result in more fair discipline. "It will be three years before we can really show a difference on paper," she says. "We still have a lot of work to do."
This story was reported in collaboration with NPR, The Social Justice News Nexus at Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University and The Chicago Reporter. Jessica Pupovac is a Chicago-based freelance reporter. Kari Lydersen is a professor at Northwestern's Medill School of Journalism. Robert Benincasa of NPR and Matt Kiefer of The Chicago Reporter provided data support. NPR's Barbara Van Woerkom and Northwestern journalism students Sydney Boles, Natalya Carrico and Cailin Crowe contributed reporting. Additional support for Pupovac was provided by Illinois Humanities, with support from the MacArthur Foundation's Safety and Justice Challenge.
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We're spending a few days looking at a striking disparity in prisons across the United States. Women are disciplined more frequently, and often more harshly, than men. That's the finding of an investigation by NPR and the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.
NPR's Joseph Shapiro and reporter Jessica Pupovac found that women are punished disproportionately for minor infractions, and those violations can have major repercussions, like the loss of good conduct credits or solitary confinement. Here's Joe.
JOSEPH SHAPIRO, BYLINE: We collected data on prison discipline from 15 states. In all but two, women get disciplined at higher rates than men. What's most striking is that women get punished far more for minor violations of prison rules at rates we estimated often two to three times higher for what prisons classify as smaller infractions.
VICTORIA WILLIAMS: Petty stuff. You can get written up for not closing your doors. You get written up for jumping on the phone without permission. Or if you just want to just fix your room up nice and just take some Kool-Aid and dye your pillowcase, you get written up for that.
SHAPIRO: That's Victoria Williams, an inmate at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, Calif.
V. WILLIAMS: You get written up for going out of bounds in somebody else's room or out of bounds in the hallways. It's just basically everything you get written up for.
SHAPIRO: Our numbers showed that in California, women, compared to men, get twice the disciplinary tickets for disobeying an order, and more than twice as many for what's called disrespect. In Vermont, we found women are more than three times as likely to get in trouble for making what's called derogatory comments. In Rhode Island, they get more than three times the tickets for disobedience.
Those tickets have consequences. Women lose good conduct credits. They can have time added to their stay in prison or lose phone and visitation privileges or go to solitary confinement. In Rhode Island, women were more than three times as likely as men to end up in solitary confinement for disobedience.
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SHAPIRO: Prisons were built for men, and the rules for discipline were set up to control those men. Deanne Benos says those rules don't work very well with women.
DEANNE BENOS: You walk through a women's prison, and it's a profoundly different experience.
SHAPIRO: We met Benos on a day she was visiting Logan Correctional Center, a women's prison in Illinois. Several years ago, Benos was a top official in the Illinois Department of Corrections. Now she works with prisons as a consultant. She helps them address that problem of why women in prison get disciplined more.
BENOS: Women are more communicative when you walk through a prison. They're more emotional. They want to talk to you. They want to talk about their children. They want to talk about their experiences.
SHAPIRO: Two years ago, Benos helped conduct an audit of that women's prison in Illinois and found that women prisoners were disciplined almost twice as often as men for all offenses, big and small, but almost five times more likely to get in trouble for a lesser offense called minor insolence.
BENOS: And they also really - if they see an injustice with another woman in a prison or something that happened, they want to fix it. Like, they want to be the mom that's going to come in and mediate between people and fix a problem.
SHAPIRO: Benos told us she likes it that women prisoners are this way. But she said many corrections officers - and often even in a women's prison, most of them are men - say they hate it.
BENOS: The first thing that they'll tell you is these women are so difficult. Gosh, they're a pain. I would rather work anywhere but here. They always want to talk to you. They won't take no for an answer.
SHAPIRO: Corrections officers are trained to keep control. They expect women to be compliant. If the women push back, that's where those disciplinary tickets for insolence come in. Two women we met in Illinois told us they'd been written up some years ago for an infraction called reckless eyeballing.
While women get more tickets than men, certain women get the most tickets of all - women with mental illness, those who are lesbian, bisexual or transgender, African-American women - especially for those lesser, nonviolent offenses.
TYTEANNA WILLIAMS: Like me cursing a guard out because they said something to me that I didn't like, or - yeah, stuff like that.
SHAPIRO: Tyteanna Williams was 19 when she went to prison in Illinois after repeatedly missing her court-ordered 9 p.m. curfew at her foster care facility. In prison, after a fight with an inmate, Williams was charged with hitting an officer who tried to stop it. Her sentence was doubled from two years to four.
But most of her tickets were for cursing and talking back to officers, and those kept her in prison for extra days, and she lost privileges. One time, she says she got in trouble for cursing at a guard when her cellmate, who had diabetes, passed out. Williams thought the officer was too slow to help.
Williams says the hardest thing was when she lost her phone privileges and she couldn't call her son. He was a baby when she went to prison, and he was growing up without her.
T. WILLIAMS: It was sad because I'll miss those years. Like, I missed when he was 2, 3, 4 and 5.
SHAPIRO: He's 9 now. But Tyteanna Williams says that time separated, often not even able to talk to him on the phone, makes it hard to be a parent now.
T. WILLIAMS: Even to this day, I still have to deal with the consequences of missing out on those years that I missed. It's hard, right next to this day, 'cause, like, I still don't understand my son. Like, he be being bad, doing stuff. And my family always tells me, like, it could be because you was gone.
SHAPIRO: More than half of women in prison are the mothers of children under the age of 18. One common punishment at that Illinois prison was that women lost good conduct credits. In one year alone - 2015 - women lost 93 years of those credits. That's 20 extra days of prison time for each woman. That's an average. Many women had no days added, but some ended up with months, even a year or more of extra time.
SHAPIRO: A small number of states, including Illinois, are trying to change this. They're trying what's called gender-responsive corrections practices. It's built around the idea that women are in prison for different reasons than men, that they respond differently in prison and that prison rules need to recognize those differences and be less punitive.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: Scenario is offender got in trouble. Offender found out that she has no phone right now.
SHAPIRO: At that prison in Illinois, a trainer at the front of a classroom tells corrections officers to think through the different pressures in a woman's life.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: And she needs to see what's going on with her son because she just found out he's kicked out of school. All right? How can we help her deal with this moment?
SHAPIRO: With phone privileges revoked, all she can do is write a letter home or to her son's school. It's a reminder to the corrections officers that tickets, even ones for lesser offenses, can have significant consequences.
Reporter Jessica Pupovac met officers at that training. They didn't want to give their names. They said the gender-responsive approach makes sense to them but that many of their co-workers are much more skeptical.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: I was open-minded. I heard a lot of things, but...
JESSICA PUPOVAC: What'd you hear?
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Stupid. Worthless. Wasn't going to work.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #3: Hug a thug.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Yeah. Hug a thug was big.
SHAPIRO: Hug a thug - that's a derogatory way of saying it's letting the inmates run the prison.
We wrote letters to some of the women at that Illinois prison. One woman who wrote back said that since the training started, she's not seen much difference. She said corrections officers - both the men and the women - are disrespectful and cruel. And this is a quote, "they're on a power trip. They call us bitches, hoes. They try to provoke you. If you say anything back, they send you to segregation for threats and intimidation."
The number of women in prison is rising. But still, they're only about 7 percent of the prison population nationwide, so it's hard to get prison officials to make their problems a priority, like the heavy punishment of women for those lesser violations of prison rules. Joseph Shapiro, NPR News.
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